Going from WoW to GW - Guild Wars Forums

Ryfenn · Sep 09, 2006, 05:34 PM // 17:34

I used to play WoW and I'm concidering switching to GW, but I have a few questions before I spend any money.
1. How's the lag? I read there aren't any patches and was wondering if that creates more or less lag. Also are major cities impossible to walk through (for those who play/played WoW, like Iron Forge lag)
2.What's the general age group that plays; teens, 20-30yrs,30-40yrs, etc.
3.Are there lots of perverts? (In WoW my main was a night elf female and I got quite a few interesting comments and I'm hoping to avoid that kinda stuff.)
4. Controls: Are they anything like WoW controls (for those who play/played), are they confusing, or are they just a pain in the butt?
5.I read that anywhere that isn't a town is like an instance and your alone unless you're in a group, can you still talk to people if you don't have a group like through whispers/tells or guild chat or anything like that?
6. Over all what would you rate the game and if you wouldn't mind, please give something you like and don't like about it.

Thank you very much for the help

Also some of these questions are to convince my mom who thinks some psycho is going to stalk me down and kill me

, so for any parents who play, do you think that your child shouldn't play? Please explain if you think they shouldn't.
(sorry for sounding like a teacher, I'm just trying to get as much info as possible

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Knightsaber Sith · Sep 09, 2006, 05:42 PM // 17:42

1. Lag usually isn't much of an issue but atm it's a bit out of control (should be fixed shortly). All the cities are relatively small, the only ones you can really get lost in are Droknar's Forge and Kaineng Center.

2.Age group is hard to say. Probably late teens to early thirties is the majority. But there are unfortunately immature people around.

3. I wouldn't say there were a lot of perverts, just stay away from any of the naked wammos throwing a dance party.....

4. Never played WoW, but I'm told GW are simpler (keep in mind you can only equip 8 skill at once in GW)

5.Yeah, you can whisper, guild chat, alliance chat

6. I rate it like 8/10. What I do like is the lack of grind and getting cool skins for armor/weapons. What I hate is seeing noobs getting runs and power lvl's everywhere.

And if you're already playing WoW, I don't see why you're mom would have anything against GW. My guild leader lets her seven year old son play sometimes.

The Pointless · Sep 09, 2006, 05:49 PM // 17:49

I fail to see how the lack of patches would affect lag. When there's an update a message will come up asking you to quit and restart, as any updates will be installed when you start the client up.

Don't assume what GW will have. It is nothing like WoW. It's a CORPG, not an MMO.

Towns and Outposts have multiple "districts". One one district is full or approaching full, the server will create a new district and you will be placed in one. You can however switch districts by choice as long as the district you want isn't full.

And Sith is right. Droknar's and Kaineng can be labyrinths at times.

Ryfenn · Sep 09, 2006, 06:16 PM // 18:16

For Knightsaber Sith, I used to play WoW, I kinda got annoyed with all the guilds collapsing and dieing out, the lag (main reason), and The nasty sick people on there, also my mom doesn't like the computer so I have to convince her to let me play until I'm 18 and have my own house :S
Also the lag question I kinda forgot to mention that after each patch I could barely move until all the bugs were worked out (which took a while).

Ryfenn · Sep 09, 2006, 06:21 PM // 18:21

grr sorry computer did somethin funky and I entered my reply twice ><

Knightsaber Sith · Sep 09, 2006, 06:24 PM // 18:24

GW's streaming updates never have bugs that cause you to lag. It'll download and install the update when you open the client and a little lightning bolt will pop up in the corner of the login screen. If you sit at the login screen for a few minitues, it'll download everything so your zoning is faster.

majoho · Sep 09, 2006, 06:33 PM // 18:33

Someone else made a thread about the same thing a couple of days ago, so you could probably get some info from that.

http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...php?t=10039895

Stupid Shizno · Sep 09, 2006, 06:38 PM // 18:38

lag is always an issue with online games, sorry.

guilds die out and are re-born every day in GW. thats what you get with every kid wanting to be incharge and telling others what to do. ive never played WoW but i play a lot of online games, so im sure its the same logic. want a good guild? spend some time with them, do some missions (quests), research them. dont do blind invites. yes there are pervs, the female night elf is our female ele.

im not sure how much information youve researched on GW but my friend plays WoW so ill try to help.

mage = ele
preist = monk
necro = necro
paladin = w/mo combo
warrior = warrior
shamen = rit
rouge = assassin

as for anything else, the age limit is the same, instead of kids having mommy and daddies credit cards, its kids with a game. if your looking for a guild there is a forum which i hear is good. the main drawback from GW is there is map traveling, something WoW,DAoC,Everquest dont have. instead of getting a flight plan from your mount to some town, you press your map button and click it. that is ofcourse aslong as you have it, you must explore the map or do the appropriate quests/missions to obtain the town in the first place.

majoho · Sep 09, 2006, 06:40 PM // 18:40

Lag in WoW is because some servers are overloaded - that doesn't ever happen in GW so the "lag is an issue with every online game" is not accurate.

eternal pho · Sep 09, 2006, 06:44 PM // 18:44

1.) For me, there's hardly any lag. Guildwars towns/outposts/cities aren't very big so you'll probably won't experienced too much lag.

2.) The age group is usually 18 years+, but you'll find some immaturity once a while.

3.) Just don't stay around the Random Arenas too much. You'll find a bunch of pervs ganging up on ur character. =P

4.) Controls are pretty similar to WoW's.

5.) Yep, once you leave an outpost, you're alone, and you can talk in any chat you wish.

6.) I'd rate this game a 9/10.

ElinoraNeSangre · Sep 09, 2006, 07:23 PM // 19:23

1. Lag is hit and miss. It's usually not bad, but as it was pointed out, it's been funkier lately. It helps that an awful lot of it's already stored on your hard drive, and that you're instanced; you aren't running around with other random characters in your area, it's just your party, so it keeps the churn a bit lower. There are patches occasionally; ANet pops out fairly frequent updates to various things. Major cities are limited to a certain number of people and then another "district" is created, so that one never gets too full. I've never hit a situation where it was so bad that moving around was seriously uncomfortable in a town (and maybe only once or twice outside of town in my case).

2. Hard to say for sure on the age, but most of the people I meet are in the 20-30 range.

3. One of the things about GW is that a LOT of people play female characters, so I don't think as much of that comes through (it happens, but it's pretty easy to avoid). I had one male warrior dirty dance with my warrior once, and occasionally there's some dirty jokes around. For the most part, though, I haven't hit a lot of this. If you have people making comments at you, you can change districts and just get away from them.

4. I can't help you here from the WoW side, but I thought the controls were pretty easy to catch onto. My husband came from WoW and had a little bit more of a learning curve than I did, but he also started with Factions which gets you going *very* fast.

5. Yep!

6. I think I'd put it at 9/10. As for like/dislike...

Like:
Grahpics, character design, general look of things
Gameplay (every minute of it can be fun, and you still can get enough gold to get what you need)
Clean separation of PvP and PvE, with a few fun things sometimes that overlap the two (and characters can go from PvE to PvP)
If you don't feel like playing with other people, you can take henchmen with you to fill out your party
Dislike:
People's mouths don't move during cutscenes! (it's a stupid thing but drives me nuts)
There's a lot of people who complain in this game - I tune them out.

My 15 year old stepson plays, and it's great - we play together sometimes, and when I'm not around, he finds groups, and doesn't have any problems. Granted, I'm pretty mellow as a "parent" goes, and it helps that I got him hooked on the game to begin with. There's no reason at all not to let him play; the worst someone can do is make a comment at him, and he either ignores it, leaves, or starts mouthing off himself.

It's a heck of a lot safer than many other online activities, and for the most part you'll just run into other gamers. It also helps that a lot of people assume for the most part that the player is male (I don't know which is the case with you!). I've actually had trouble convincing people I really am female in real life.

No one is going to be able to know where you are unless you tell them, so stalking you down isn't a worry at all. If someone annoys you, put them on your ignore list. It's very easy to avoid annoying people in this game.

Another good thing would be to find a guild full of good people; in my case, I'm in a guild with mostly family and close friends, which is really cool. It gives us a fun group to play with that's totally safe so to speak, and in the case of my stepson, it gives him a group of people who I know are okay to hang with.

Anyway, hope this helps.

-Kel/Eli

Farrell-Zander · Sep 09, 2006, 08:29 PM // 20:29

1. I never experiance much lag unless I'm doing something other then GW too (like trying to open 5 different programs at once, but I guess thats normal :P)

2. I'd say 20-30 but yes you will find younger people too (I'm only 15 :P)

3. If you don't go afk in a crowded town you should have much problems :P

4. I don't know the WoW controls but GW controls are easy and uncomplicated. Because you can only have 8 skills at once, it's not that hard.

5. Yes there are whispers, guildchat and alliance chat.

Hope you have fun playing GW and maybe I'll see you around

Ryfenn · Sep 09, 2006, 11:17 PM // 23:17

To Death 3D, I stuck with a guild for a long time, my first one I was with it when it first started up till the leader started selling us to another, more powerful, guild then I quit and went to another where I stayed for a while. There were only a few times when I got annoyed with the guild and quit because the leader got a big head, but I usually stayed with one guild. And the one guy who I thought was stalking me, it didn't help that I knew people in my guild in RL (like went to church and school w/) and they would make comments about where they lived an stuff so yea...

Also, a few guys made girl characters, I only had 2-3 people think I was a guy. And I did use my ignore list plenty of times, my patience level for perverts isn't very high, I don't mind a little bit but a continous amount is rather annoying.

Sorry for any spelling mistakes and thanks for all the help (and sorry for not seeing the other post :S )
Oh and one more question!
Do the hunters or w/e they're called suck majorly in GW? (My hunter didn't get much respect until I managed to beat some mage in WoW and I don't want to have to go through all that again 0.o) and are there really no conrols for pets, like to make them attack or stay back, anything like that???

Ok one more thing (I was researching and looking @ the forum @ the same time hehe) the little people on the yahoo video game thingy said that you don't have to buy GW to play Factions, I don't think they'd lie since Yahoo's a big name, but you don't get to explore the old lands from GW right? If that's true, would I be missing out on much, or would that just be a really hard/confusing place to start off at?
Again, thanks so much for helping me out

shadowfell · Sep 09, 2006, 11:36 PM // 23:36

I did just the opposite. I'm actually installing wow, right this second.

Francis Demeules · Sep 10, 2006, 12:01 AM // 00:01

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Originally Posted by Ryfenn

Ok one more thing (I was researching and looking @ the forum @ the same time hehe) the little people on the yahoo video game thingy said that you don't have to buy GW to play Factions, I don't think they'd lie since Yahoo's a big name, but you don't get to explore the old lands from GW right? If that's true, would I be missing out on much, or would that just be a really hard/confusing place to start off at?
Again, thanks so much for helping me out

All expansions are stand alone games: that mean you can have Faction without Prophecies (First Guild Wars).

And no you can't explore the continent if you don't have the CD-key for that continent (need to buy for that). You still have all the continents installed on your computer, but you can't have access until you buy a CD-key

I can't really tell much the difference between Prophecies and Faction because they're already LOT of threads about that to make your choice. Just in case, Faction is shorter (in land) than Prophecies and both lands aren't so confusing..... perhaps the Big poor city in Faction which it looks like a labyrinth.

In Prophecies, you have, at least, the time to look?? use and learn your skills at your own rythme. In Faction, you start with a big set of skills without getting a progressive learning* (see below).

Really, its a matter of choice between Faction and Prophecies... soon Nightfall

*Progressive learning: Learning skills throught the story by not buying them at a skill trainer.

Opal Bridewood · Sep 10, 2006, 12:19 AM // 00:19

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Originally Posted by Ryfenn

I used to play WoW and I'm concidering switching to GW, but I have a few questions before I spend any money.
1. How's the lag? I read there aren't any patches and was wondering if that creates more or less lag. Also are major cities impossible to walk through (for those who play/played WoW, like Iron Forge lag)
2.What's the general age group that plays; teens, 20-30yrs,30-40yrs, etc.
3.Are there lots of perverts? (In WoW my main was a night elf female and I got quite a few interesting comments and I'm hoping to avoid that kinda stuff.)
4. Controls: Are they anything like WoW controls (for those who play/played), are they confusing, or are they just a pain in the butt?
5.I read that anywhere that isn't a town is like an instance and your alone unless you're in a group, can you still talk to people if you don't have a group like through whispers/tells or guild chat or anything like that?
6. Over all what would you rate the game and if you wouldn't mind, please give something you like and don't like about it.

1. Lag is not much of an issue, most of it I get it from my low RAM but even that disappears after a few minutes of being in an instance.

2. I think mostly teenagers, young adults, hard to tell though.

3. I didnt meet many, and since you mostly play with whoever you choose once outside towns, people cant harrass you. Some people (mostly those who can play with their guilds) turn off AllChat in towns completely.

4. Havent played WoW, but controls seem to be fine to me, and customizable too.

5. Chat works everywhere as others said so

6. I played since release (mostly PvE) been in the same guild since then, had fun times all the while, made friends, enjoyed myself, etc. It was a great find to me, and I still enjoy it.

Likes: See above paragraph, but I like the graphics and the balanced system that makes it possible for GW to host tournaments with real prizes.

Dislikes: Well trading system is missing (though they promised it is coming)...otherwise I'm fine thanks

Cheers,
Opal

Blazing · Sep 10, 2006, 01:06 AM // 01:06

Well, about immaturity, im 15 (almost 16 yey) but like me there are many this age that respect as much or more the other player than any other more grown up player. You can thrust me at least (or can you not ^^).

About lag, almost never had it & i never lost anything because of it.

The guild wars world is always rising, with the new campaigns new uprades etc...

GW has a VERY nice community, like yu can see now, in this forum... but there exceptions (dont look at me dawm).

Its not a hard game is very pratical & nice to play, its addicting yes but you can have a social live easily.

Then we have the guilds, some good some not, but you will find the perfect one for you fast, bein by your favourite activities in the game or nationality (mine is portuguese for example).

You dont have to sell you soul to be fully equiped & this game (if you whant to be a PvP player in most of the time) allows you to have a full leveled charr to be in PvP arenas.

Never played WoW but in the last month my guild ''lost'' 2 members cause they changed to wow.

Well, its different than wow here (as many say & i cant knw better) but you should give it a try cause i play this for 8 months now (plz let my birthday charr present be Bone Dragon

) but i cant get enough.

Hope i see you soon around in Tyria or Cantha!
(i also hope i helped in anything)

Cya around

Sasuke The Betrayer · Sep 10, 2006, 01:12 AM // 01:12

I kind of stopped reading everyone else's comments, because I was afraid someone might say this before me....

WE HAVE GUILD HALLS HAHAHAH WOW DOESNT!! ROFL!!! weee

The guild halls, are where the guild can arrange meetings, guild battles, or just a party (woot). Theres only one district for the guild hall, and it is accessible anytime you want.

Btw...

I hear WoW has many issues with PvP and its very unbalanced. You'll hardly see that in Guild Wars, except the cookie cutter builds. Hope you play!

Monk Mystic · Sep 10, 2006, 05:09 AM // 05:09

ok id say the best thing ive found about GW having played both, i LOVE that fact that in GW its SOOO easy to change builds. respeccing is as simple as moving around attributes. WoW can get so damn expensive trying to change talents and what not. it can be hard to be a seriously diverse character.PLUS because it takes so long to get a lvl 60, having a mage,warrior,rouge,and hunter(yes there are others lol)all at max lvl with diverse builds is CLOSE to impossible.that is if you have any form of life... in GW i have 6 lvl 20s, all insanely diverse and everyone of them can play at least 5 builds. and it takes me roughly 3 minutes and no money to change. thats what i enjoy most.(if you dont understand me i mean like changed from frost specced to fire specced as a mage, you have to pay. in GW you dont)

Numa Pompilius · Sep 10, 2006, 10:48 AM // 10:48

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Originally Posted by ElinoraNeSangre

1. Lag is hit and miss. It's usually not bad, but as it was pointed out, it's been funkier lately.

As someone who's been around since release... You get lag in GW at two times: when the servers get overloaded (typically during events, e.g. you can bet that it'll be pretty laggy during the upcoming Nightfall PvE event), and just before a major update is released (e.g. lag was bad just before Sorrows Furnace, and just before Factions). Presumably this later type of lag is due to some servers being used to playtest the update, so it's really also a case of overloaded servers.

However, as someone else pointed out, the 'flat' structure of GW, where the world isn't divided into servers but instead all servers cooperate, means that overload is quite rare.

As for the perverts... Yeah, they're around. Normal caution for playing online games apply: don't give out your age or email, real name, real address, real telephone number, or otherwise make it possible for the pervs to find or contact you in real life, and you'll be fine.

Sep 09, 2006, 05:34 PM // 17:34	#1
Ryfenn Pre-Searing Cadet Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: United States Guild: ...	Going from WoW to GW I used to play WoW and I'm concidering switching to GW, but I have a few questions before I spend any money. 1. How's the lag? I read there aren't any patches and was wondering if that creates more or less lag. Also are major cities impossible to walk through (for those who play/played WoW, like Iron Forge lag) 2.What's the general age group that plays; teens, 20-30yrs,30-40yrs, etc. 3.Are there lots of perverts? (In WoW my main was a night elf female and I got quite a few interesting comments and I'm hoping to avoid that kinda stuff.) 4. Controls: Are they anything like WoW controls (for those who play/played), are they confusing, or are they just a pain in the butt? 5.I read that anywhere that isn't a town is like an instance and your alone unless you're in a group, can you still talk to people if you don't have a group like through whispers/tells or guild chat or anything like that? 6. Over all what would you rate the game and if you wouldn't mind, please give something you like and don't like about it. Thank you very much for the help Also some of these questions are to convince my mom who thinks some psycho is going to stalk me down and kill me , so for any parents who play, do you think that your child shouldn't play? Please explain if you think they shouldn't. (sorry for sounding like a teacher, I'm just trying to get as much info as possible )

Sep 09, 2006, 06:21 PM // 18:21	#5
Ryfenn Pre-Searing Cadet Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: United States Guild: ...	grr sorry computer did somethin funky and I entered my reply twice >< Last edited by Ryfenn; Sep 09, 2006 at 06:24 PM // 18:24..

Sep 09, 2006, 11:17 PM // 23:17	#13
Ryfenn Pre-Searing Cadet Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: United States Guild: ...	To Death 3D, I stuck with a guild for a long time, my first one I was with it when it first started up till the leader started selling us to another, more powerful, guild then I quit and went to another where I stayed for a while. There were only a few times when I got annoyed with the guild and quit because the leader got a big head, but I usually stayed with one guild. And the one guy who I thought was stalking me, it didn't help that I knew people in my guild in RL (like went to church and school w/) and they would make comments about where they lived an stuff so yea... Also, a few guys made girl characters, I only had 2-3 people think I was a guy. And I did use my ignore list plenty of times, my patience level for perverts isn't very high, I don't mind a little bit but a continous amount is rather annoying. Sorry for any spelling mistakes and thanks for all the help (and sorry for not seeing the other post :S ) Oh and one more question! Do the hunters or w/e they're called suck majorly in GW? (My hunter didn't get much respect until I managed to beat some mage in WoW and I don't want to have to go through all that again 0.o) and are there really no conrols for pets, like to make them attack or stay back, anything like that??? Ok one more thing (I was researching and looking @ the forum @ the same time hehe) the little people on the yahoo video game thingy said that you don't have to buy GW to play Factions, I don't think they'd lie since Yahoo's a big name, but you don't get to explore the old lands from GW right? If that's true, would I be missing out on much, or would that just be a really hard/confusing place to start off at? Again, thanks so much for helping me out Last edited by Ryfenn; Sep 09, 2006 at 11:35 PM // 23:35..

Sep 09, 2006, 05:42 PM // 17:42	#2
Knightsaber Sith Furnace Stoker Join Date: Aug 2006 Guild: Few Fallen Heroes [FFH] Profession: W/E	1. Lag usually isn't much of an issue but atm it's a bit out of control (should be fixed shortly). All the cities are relatively small, the only ones you can really get lost in are Droknar's Forge and Kaineng Center. 2.Age group is hard to say. Probably late teens to early thirties is the majority. But there are unfortunately immature people around. 3. I wouldn't say there were a lot of perverts, just stay away from any of the naked wammos throwing a dance party..... 4. Never played WoW, but I'm told GW are simpler (keep in mind you can only equip 8 skill at once in GW) 5.Yeah, you can whisper, guild chat, alliance chat 6. I rate it like 8/10. What I do like is the lack of grind and getting cool skins for armor/weapons. What I hate is seeing noobs getting runs and power lvl's everywhere. And if you're already playing WoW, I don't see why you're mom would have anything against GW. My guild leader lets her seven year old son play sometimes.

Sep 09, 2006, 05:49 PM // 17:49	#3
The Pointless Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Stuck in the UK Guild: Rage International [RAGE] Profession: W/Me	I fail to see how the lack of patches would affect lag. When there's an update a message will come up asking you to quit and restart, as any updates will be installed when you start the client up. Don't assume what GW will have. It is nothing like WoW. It's a CORPG, not an MMO. Towns and Outposts have multiple "districts". One one district is full or approaching full, the server will create a new district and you will be placed in one. You can however switch districts by choice as long as the district you want isn't full. And Sith is right. Droknar's and Kaineng can be labyrinths at times.

Sep 09, 2006, 06:16 PM // 18:16	#4
Ryfenn Pre-Searing Cadet Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: United States Guild: ...	For Knightsaber Sith, I used to play WoW, I kinda got annoyed with all the guilds collapsing and dieing out, the lag (main reason), and The nasty sick people on there, also my mom doesn't like the computer so I have to convince her to let me play until I'm 18 and have my own house :S Also the lag question I kinda forgot to mention that after each patch I could barely move until all the bugs were worked out (which took a while).

Sep 09, 2006, 06:24 PM // 18:24	#6
Knightsaber Sith Furnace Stoker Join Date: Aug 2006 Guild: Few Fallen Heroes [FFH] Profession: W/E	GW's streaming updates never have bugs that cause you to lag. It'll download and install the update when you open the client and a little lightning bolt will pop up in the corner of the login screen. If you sit at the login screen for a few minitues, it'll download everything so your zoning is faster.

Sep 09, 2006, 06:33 PM // 18:33	#7
majoho Forge Runner Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Denmark	Someone else made a thread about the same thing a couple of days ago, so you could probably get some info from that. http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...php?t=10039895

Sep 09, 2006, 06:38 PM // 18:38	#8
Stupid Shizno Banned Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Madison, Wisconsin, USA Guild: [eF] Profession: Mo/	lag is always an issue with online games, sorry. guilds die out and are re-born every day in GW. thats what you get with every kid wanting to be incharge and telling others what to do. ive never played WoW but i play a lot of online games, so im sure its the same logic. want a good guild? spend some time with them, do some missions (quests), research them. dont do blind invites. yes there are pervs, the female night elf is our female ele. im not sure how much information youve researched on GW but my friend plays WoW so ill try to help. mage = ele preist = monk necro = necro paladin = w/mo combo warrior = warrior shamen = rit rouge = assassin as for anything else, the age limit is the same, instead of kids having mommy and daddies credit cards, its kids with a game. if your looking for a guild there is a forum which i hear is good. the main drawback from GW is there is map traveling, something WoW,DAoC,Everquest dont have. instead of getting a flight plan from your mount to some town, you press your map button and click it. that is ofcourse aslong as you have it, you must explore the map or do the appropriate quests/missions to obtain the town in the first place.

Sep 09, 2006, 06:40 PM // 18:40	#9
majoho Forge Runner Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Denmark	Lag in WoW is because some servers are overloaded - that doesn't ever happen in GW so the "lag is an issue with every online game" is not accurate.

Sep 09, 2006, 06:44 PM // 18:44	#10
eternal pho Banned Join Date: Nov 2005 Guild: The Licious Fame Farmers {TLG} Profession: W/E	1.) For me, there's hardly any lag. Guildwars towns/outposts/cities aren't very big so you'll probably won't experienced too much lag. 2.) The age group is usually 18 years+, but you'll find some immaturity once a while. 3.) Just don't stay around the Random Arenas too much. You'll find a bunch of pervs ganging up on ur character. =P 4.) Controls are pretty similar to WoW's. 5.) Yep, once you leave an outpost, you're alone, and you can talk in any chat you wish. 6.) I'd rate this game a 9/10.

Sep 09, 2006, 07:23 PM // 19:23	#11
ElinoraNeSangre Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Near Seattle, WA Guild: Talionis De Cineris [EXUR] Profession: N/Me	1. Lag is hit and miss. It's usually not bad, but as it was pointed out, it's been funkier lately. It helps that an awful lot of it's already stored on your hard drive, and that you're instanced; you aren't running around with other random characters in your area, it's just your party, so it keeps the churn a bit lower. There are patches occasionally; ANet pops out fairly frequent updates to various things. Major cities are limited to a certain number of people and then another "district" is created, so that one never gets too full. I've never hit a situation where it was so bad that moving around was seriously uncomfortable in a town (and maybe only once or twice outside of town in my case). 2. Hard to say for sure on the age, but most of the people I meet are in the 20-30 range. 3. One of the things about GW is that a LOT of people play female characters, so I don't think as much of that comes through (it happens, but it's pretty easy to avoid). I had one male warrior dirty dance with my warrior once, and occasionally there's some dirty jokes around. For the most part, though, I haven't hit a lot of this. If you have people making comments at you, you can change districts and just get away from them. 4. I can't help you here from the WoW side, but I thought the controls were pretty easy to catch onto. My husband came from WoW and had a little bit more of a learning curve than I did, but he also started with Factions which gets you going very fast. 5. Yep! 6. I think I'd put it at 9/10. As for like/dislike... Like: Grahpics, character design, general look of things Gameplay (every minute of it can be fun, and you still can get enough gold to get what you need) Clean separation of PvP and PvE, with a few fun things sometimes that overlap the two (and characters can go from PvE to PvP) If you don't feel like playing with other people, you can take henchmen with you to fill out your party Dislike: People's mouths don't move during cutscenes! (it's a stupid thing but drives me nuts) There's a lot of people who complain in this game - I tune them out. My 15 year old stepson plays, and it's great - we play together sometimes, and when I'm not around, he finds groups, and doesn't have any problems. Granted, I'm pretty mellow as a "parent" goes, and it helps that I got him hooked on the game to begin with. There's no reason at all not to let him play; the worst someone can do is make a comment at him, and he either ignores it, leaves, or starts mouthing off himself. It's a heck of a lot safer than many other online activities, and for the most part you'll just run into other gamers. It also helps that a lot of people assume for the most part that the player is male (I don't know which is the case with you!). I've actually had trouble convincing people I really am female in real life. No one is going to be able to know where you are unless you tell them, so stalking you down isn't a worry at all. If someone annoys you, put them on your ignore list. It's very easy to avoid annoying people in this game. Another good thing would be to find a guild full of good people; in my case, I'm in a guild with mostly family and close friends, which is really cool. It gives us a fun group to play with that's totally safe so to speak, and in the case of my stepson, it gives him a group of people who I know are okay to hang with. Anyway, hope this helps. -Kel/Eli

Sep 09, 2006, 08:29 PM // 20:29	#12
Farrell-Zander Krytan Explorer Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Switzerland	1. I never experiance much lag unless I'm doing something other then GW too (like trying to open 5 different programs at once, but I guess thats normal :P) 2. I'd say 20-30 but yes you will find younger people too (I'm only 15 :P) 3. If you don't go afk in a crowded town you should have much problems :P 4. I don't know the WoW controls but GW controls are easy and uncomplicated. Because you can only have 8 skills at once, it's not that hard. 5. Yes there are whispers, guildchat and alliance chat. Hope you have fun playing GW and maybe I'll see you around

Sep 09, 2006, 11:36 PM // 23:36	#14
shadowfell hamonite anur ruk Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Echovald Forest Guild: [PhD] Teh Academy Profession: Me/A	I did just the opposite. I'm actually installing wow, right this second.

Sep 10, 2006, 01:06 AM // 01:06	#17
Blazing Academy Page Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Portugal Guild: [LoBo] Profession: W/	Well, about immaturity, im 15 (almost 16 yey) but like me there are many this age that respect as much or more the other player than any other more grown up player. You can thrust me at least (or can you not ^^). About lag, almost never had it & i never lost anything because of it. The guild wars world is always rising, with the new campaigns new uprades etc... GW has a VERY nice community, like yu can see now, in this forum... but there exceptions (dont look at me dawm). Its not a hard game is very pratical & nice to play, its addicting yes but you can have a social live easily. Then we have the guilds, some good some not, but you will find the perfect one for you fast, bein by your favourite activities in the game or nationality (mine is portuguese for example). You dont have to sell you soul to be fully equiped & this game (if you whant to be a PvP player in most of the time) allows you to have a full leveled charr to be in PvP arenas. Never played WoW but in the last month my guild ''lost'' 2 members cause they changed to wow. Well, its different than wow here (as many say & i cant knw better) but you should give it a try cause i play this for 8 months now (plz let my birthday charr present be Bone Dragon ) but i cant get enough. Hope i see you soon around in Tyria or Cantha! (i also hope i helped in anything) Cya around

Sep 10, 2006, 01:12 AM // 01:12	#18
Sasuke The Betrayer Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Los Angeles Guild: Pink Pearl Profession: Mo/Me	I kind of stopped reading everyone else's comments, because I was afraid someone might say this before me.... WE HAVE GUILD HALLS HAHAHAH WOW DOESNT!! ROFL!!! weee The guild halls, are where the guild can arrange meetings, guild battles, or just a party (woot). Theres only one district for the guild hall, and it is accessible anytime you want. Btw... I hear WoW has many issues with PvP and its very unbalanced. You'll hardly see that in Guild Wars, except the cookie cutter builds. Hope you play!

Sep 10, 2006, 05:09 AM // 05:09	#19
Monk Mystic Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: May 2006 Guild: The Ka-Tet of Gilead Profession: Mo/W	ok id say the best thing ive found about GW having played both, i LOVE that fact that in GW its SOOO easy to change builds. respeccing is as simple as moving around attributes. WoW can get so damn expensive trying to change talents and what not. it can be hard to be a seriously diverse character.PLUS because it takes so long to get a lvl 60, having a mage,warrior,rouge,and hunter(yes there are others lol)all at max lvl with diverse builds is CLOSE to impossible.that is if you have any form of life... in GW i have 6 lvl 20s, all insanely diverse and everyone of them can play at least 5 builds. and it takes me roughly 3 minutes and no money to change. thats what i enjoy most.(if you dont understand me i mean like changed from frost specced to fire specced as a mage, you have to pay. in GW you dont)